Wow!! American Indians Secede From the United States!!

Yeah!! I think this is a great idea!

And it’s for real too.

WASHINGTON (AFP) “” The Lakota Indians, who gave the world legendary warriors Sitting Bull and Crazy Horse, have withdrawn from treaties with the United States, leaders said Wednesday.

We are no longer citizens of the United States of America and all those who live in the five-state area that encompasses our country are free to join us,” long-time Indian rights activist Russell Means told a handful of reporters and a delegation from the Bolivian embassy, gathered in a church in a run-down neighborhood of Washington for a news conference.

Russell Means is pretty well known in Hollywood and in the American Indian Movement, although not without a lot of controversy (whatever). He was also the inspiration for several articles on this site, including Living On The Reservation (which is what we all do). He’s an activist and loved and hated by both sides. I’m not defending him, but I’ve heard him speak and can understand what his position is and that of AIM.

“This is according to the laws of the United States, specifically article six of the constitution,” which states that treaties are the supreme law of the land, he said.

“It is also within the laws on treaties passed at the Vienna Convention and put into effect by the US and the rest of the international community in 1980. We are legally within our rights to be free and independent,” said Means.

The Lakota relaunched their journey to freedom in 1974, when they drafted a declaration of continuing independence — an overt play on the title of the United States’ Declaration of Independence from England.

Thirty-three years have elapsed since then because “it takes critical mass to combat colonialism and we wanted to make sure that all our ducks were in a row,” Means said.

One duck moved into place in September, when the United Nations adopted a non-binding declaration on the rights of indigenous peoples — despite opposition from the United States, which said it clashed with its own laws.

“We have 33 treaties with the United States that they have not lived by. They continue to take our land, our water, our children,” Phyllis Young, who helped organize the first international conference on indigenous rights in Geneva in 1977, told the news conference.

The US “annexation” of native American land has resulted in once proud tribes such as the Lakota becoming mere “facsimiles of white people,” said Means.

Oppression at the hands of the US government has taken its toll on the Lakota, whose men have one of the shortest life expectancies — less than 44 years — in the world.

Lakota teen suicides are 150 percent above the norm for the United States; infant mortality is five times higher than the US average; and unemployment is rife, according to the Lakota freedom movement’s website.

“Our people want to live, not just survive or crawl and be mascots,” said Young.

Descendants of Sitting Bull, Crazy Horse break away from US

Sign me up!! My own research into the plight of the American Indians reveals a horrifying history of abuse, sterilization, murder, assassination and oppression. Now lets see if they can succeed, but I hope so, I really do.

Expect this to trigger a MASSIVE backlash down the road (as long as this gains some real ground), media “spin” and more bullshit rhetoric from the Bush Administration about how “illegal” this is. Worse, expect a Wounded Knee all over again, and of course, martial law. In fact, you can expect about anything from this point on.

I’d like to see the rest of the American Indian tribes do exactly the same things. I’m not holding my breath, because this really isn’t a big event yet, but maybe?  I still don’t believe in political solutions anymore, but hey, starting your own country would circumvent a lot of red tape (and create a lot more).

Time to stand up and be counted folks – where do you stand?


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13 thoughts on “Wow!! American Indians Secede From the United States!!

  • December 21, 2007 at 8:27 am

    Vermont has a better chance of seceding than they do. Think of the difficulties. Hospitals, manufacturing, food production, would then be denied to these foreign nationals. They would need to trade like any other country. The reservations only have casinos and mining. And their direct trading partner would only be the U.S. I know its a simplication, but illustrates the situation.

    No, this will only be received with a smug smirk, a wink between govnt officials.

  • December 21, 2007 at 8:56 am

    I agree that our corrupt and evil government won’t take this seriously, but they just might if ALL the Indian nations did this, which is what I would like to see happen.

    They’ll take it seriously if the tribes kick the feds out and confiscate all the resources, but that is sure to bring swift retribution as I pointed out above.

    They will need the support of the U.S., and it’s people if they are going to succeed, but I hold no illusions.

    I’d like to see them abandon the modern lifestyle as step #1. I’m not saying it’s possible (I don’t know), and not because they are Indian, but because I think it’d be pretty cool to have all that mining, oil and gas and not need it, or even sell it if they didn’t want to.

    I don’t know if they could raise their own food. With energy inputs and the right mix of qualified people, yes, they probably could. IAVS would work, situated near an energy source.

    They could in all likelihood, attract the type of qualified help that they would need using several methods. Free land, citizenship, zero taxes for life, or something.

    How many want out of the United Slaves of
    America? Quite a few, the number of expatriates is growing by leaps and bounds, now numbering in the millions. I’m not a statistician, but for every person who protests, writes their Congressman or ‘stands out’, there are at least 100 more that feel the same way. If millions have already left, what might this mean? I think it’s a sign of why they are closing our borders to keep us in.

    I doubt much Vermont or New Hampshire or Wyoming stand much of a chance, never did understand the misguided objectives of the Free State Project, or the failed Free West effort.

    We don’t need “another country”. What we need is a different country and a different lifestyle that doesn’t poison itself. I can see no point at all in repeating the failed American experiment by ribboning off a new chunk of ground and ground and calling it a “free state” and then trying to maintain everything that everyone has been accustomed to. This is a mistake, it’s a lifestyle that is coming to and end anyway.

    I have long considered my own expatriate plans and where I would go if I could. This is a subject I’ve investigated some, but never found a suitable location or lifestyle. It’d be cool if this could be done right here.

  • December 21, 2007 at 9:51 am

    here is their website

    “The whole world is watching”

    here are a few ‘stats’ (realities)
    Lakota Indians facts:

    Can you imagine that in the United States of America:

    There is a group of people who have the shortest life expectancy of any group in the Western Hemisphere, outside of Haiti?
    Families, children and elders go without food on a regular basis?
    Families are often without heat during sub-zero temperatures?
    People are without employment opportunities or adequate medical facilities?
    That is the plight of Lakota People living on reservations in South Dakota.

    Life Expectancy is 48 years for men and 52 years for women.
    Unemployment is estimated to be 87%
    90% live below the Federal poverty level.
    The teenage suicide rate is 3 1/2 times higher than the national average.
    Infant mortality is five times higher than the national average
    Diabetes, heart disease, cancer and malnutrition are epidemic.

  • December 24, 2007 at 3:31 pm


    Lakota Sioux leader Crazy Horse famously exhorted his troops “Hokahey, today is a good day to die!”

    “When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes duty” ~ Unknown

    There is no good in silence over matters involving wisdom just as there is no good in speaking with ignorance.
    … “Death is in living vanquished and life is in dying triumphant” ~ imam ali (najaf iraq)

    Truth is a radical idea [subversive threat] to an indoctrinated mind.

  • December 25, 2007 at 10:13 am

    That man has to be the stupidest politician on the planet. I noticed the laughter in the background.

  • December 25, 2007 at 4:12 pm

    Many links here – Lakota Freedom.

    You can also find references to the broken treaties and promises made by the United States to the Lakota and other Indian nations.

    The Lakota are indeed taking this as more then a honorary step – they do intend to secede, I don’t think Daily Kos has it right.

    Lakota Withdrawal

  • December 25, 2007 at 4:15 pm



    A long time ago my father told me what his father told him. There was once a Lakota Holy man called Drinks Water, who visioned what was to be; and this was long before the coming of the Wasicus. He visioned that the four-legged were going back into the earth and that a strange
    race had woven a spiderâ’s web all around the Lakotas. And he said, “When this happens, you shall live in barren lands, and there beside those gray houses you shall starve.” They say he went back to Mother Earth soon after he saw this vision and it was sorrow that killed him.
    Black Elk, Oglala Sioux Holy Man


    The United States of America has continually violated the independent Native Peoples of this continent by Executive action, Legislative fiat and Judicial decision. By its actions, the U.S. has denied all Native people their International Treaty rights, Treaty lands and basic human rights of freedom and sovereignty. This same U.S. Government, which fought to throw off the yoke of oppression and gain its own independence, has
    now reversed its role and become the oppressor of sovereign Native people. Might does not make right. Sovereign people of varying cultures have the absolute right to live in harmony with Mother Earth so long as they do not infringe upon this same right of other peoples. The denial of this right to any sovereign people, such as the Native American Indian Nations, must be challenged by truth and action. World concern must focus on all colonial governments to the end that sovereign people everywhere shall live as they choose; in peace with dignity and freedom.
    The International Indian Treaty Conference hereby adopts this Declaration of Continuing Independence of the Sovereign Native American Indian Nations. In the course of these human events, we call upon the people of the world to support this struggle for our sovereign rights and our treaty rights. We pledge our assistance to all other sovereign people who seek their own independence.

    The First International Treaty Council of the Western Hemisphere was formed on the land of the Standing Rock Sioux Tribe on June 8-16, 1974. The delegates, meeting under the guidance of the Great Spirit, represented 97 Indian tribes and Nations from across North and South America. We, the sovereign Native Peoples recognize that all lands belonging to the various Native Nations now situated within the boundaries of the U.S. are clearly defined by the sacred treaties solemnly entered into between the Native Nations and the government of the United States of America.

    We, the sovereign Native Peoples, charge the United States of gross violations of our International Treaties. Two of the thousands of violations that can be cited are the “wrongfully taking” of the Black Hills from the Great Sioux Nation in 1877, this sacred land belonging to the Great Sioux Nation under the Fort Laramie Treaty of 1868. The second violation was the forced march of the Cherokee people from their ancestral lands in the state of Georgia to the then “Indian Territory” of Oklahoma after the Supreme Court of the United States ruled the Cherokee treaty rights inviolate. The treaty violation, know as the “Trail of Tears,” brought death to two-thirds of the Cherokee Nation during the forced march. The Council further realizes that securing United States recognition of treaties signed with Native Nations requires a committed and unified struggle, using every
    available legal and political resource. Treaties between sovereign nations explicitly entail agreements with represent “the supreme law of the land” binding each party to an inviolate international relationship.  We acknowledge the historical fact that the struggle for Independence of the
    Peoples of our sacred Mother Earth have always been over sovereignty of land. These historical freedom efforts have always involved the highest human sacrifice. We recognize that all Native Nations wish to avoid violence, but we also recognize that the United States government has always used force and violence to deny Native Nations basic human and treaty rights. We adopt this Declaration of Continuing Independence, recognizing that struggle lies ahead – a struggle certain to be won – and that the human and treaty rights of all Native Nations will be honored. In this understanding the International Indian Treaty Council declares:

    The United State Government in its Constitution, Article VI, recognizes treaties as part of the Supreme Law of the United States. We will peacefully pursue all legal and political avenues to demand United States recognition of its own Constitution in this regard, and thus to honor its own treaties with Native Nations. We will seek the support of all world communities in the struggle for the continuing independence of Native Nations.
    We the representatives of sovereign Native Nations united in forming a council to be known at the International Indian Treaty Council to implement these declarations. The International Indian Treaty Council will establish offices in Washington, D.C. and New York City to approach the international forces necessary to obtain the recognition of our treaties. These offices will establish an initial system of communications among Native nations to disseminate information, getting a general consensus of concerning issues, developments and any legislative attempt affecting Native Nations by the United States of America. The International Indian Treaty Council recognizes the sovereignty of all Native Nations and will stand in unity to support our Native and international brothers and sisters in their respective and collective struggles concerning international treaties and agreements violated by the United States and other governments. All treaties between the Sovereign Native Nations and the United States Government must be interpreted according to the traditional and spiritual ways of the signatory Native Nations. We declare our recognition of the Provisional Government of the Independent Oglala Nation, established by the Traditional Chiefs and Headmen under the provisions of the 1868 Fort Laramie Treaty with the Great Sioux Nation at Wounded Knee, March 11, 1973.

    We condemn the United States of America for its gross violation of the 1868 Fort Laramie Treaty in militarily surrounding, killing and starving the citizens of the Independent Oglala Nation into exile. We demand the United States of America recognize the sovereignty of the Independent Oglala Nation and immediately stop all present and future criminal prosecutions of sovereign Native Peoples. We call upon the conscionable nations of the
    world to join us in charging and prosecuting the United States of America for its genocidal practices against the sovereign Native Nations; most recently illustrated by Wounded Knee 1973 and the continued refusal to sign the United Nations 1948 Treaty on Genocide. We reject all executive orders, legislative acts and judicial decisions of the United States related to Native Nations since 1871, when the United States unilaterally
    suspended treaty- making relations with the Native Nations. This includes, but is not limited to, the Major Crimes Act, the General Allotment Act, the Citizenship Act of 1924, the Indian Reorganization Act of 1934, the Indian Claims Commission Act, Public Law 280 and the Termination Act. All treaties made between Native Nations and the United States made prior toe 1871 shall be recognized without further need of interpretation.
    We hereby ally ourselves with the colonized Puerto Rican People in their struggle for Independence from the same United States of America.
    We recognize that there is only one color of Mankind in the world who are not represented in the United Nations; that is the indigenous Redman of the Western Hemisphere. We recognize this lack of representation in the United Nations comes from the genocidal policies of the colonial power of the United States. The International Indian Treaty Council established by this conference is directed to make the application to the United Nations for recognition and membership of the sovereign Native Nations. We pledge our support to any similar application by an aboriginal people. This conference directs the Treaty Council to open negotiations with the government of the United States through its Department of State. We seek these negotiations in order to establish diplomatic relations with the United States. When these diplomatic relations have been established, the first order of business shall be to deal with U.S. violations of treaties with Native Indian Nations, and violations of the rights of those Native Indian Nations who have refused to sign treaties with the United States. We, the People of the International Indian Treaty Council, following the guidance
    of our elders through instructions from the Great Spirit, and out of respect for our sacred Mother Earth, all her children, and those yet unborn, offer our lives for our International Treaty Rights.

  • December 25, 2007 at 4:37 pm

    ‘white man’ kills the earth by defiling all that lives upon it

  • December 26, 2007 at 7:55 am

    I’d say that ‘white man’ defiles the earth only after he desecrates it.

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