Torture Is Treason

Lonewolf shared this ‘find’ with me, these are comments made to a Truthout article linked below, but something I think everyone should read, especially that ‘cowboy’ guy I kicked off this blog for advocating torture:

To hell with impeachment; I say we use “enhanced interrogation techniques” on the terrorists who did violence to our nation – the ones who usurped power, shredded the Constitution, lied, cheated and emptied the National Treasury; I say we use a little water-boarding on them and force them to admit their crimes; I say we bring no charges, but keep them imprisoned at Gitmo for the rest of their unnatural lives: I say no habeas corpus for Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld, Rove, Addington, Libbey, et al; I say they deserve the same sort of ignominious fate as Rudolph Hess at Spandau. You’d think after the last eight years, people would have enough of Fascist nonsense. But living here in the buckle of the Bible Belt, I can assure you there are plenty of good citizens of the Reich who have not learned their lesson. They will gladly cast their vote for more of the same rather than vote for a black man, …

Torture is treason. Bluntly put, this is what we are trying to comprehend individually and as a nation. Torture overwhelms human standards expressing, in effect, every violation that can be perpetrated against a human being. It unmistakably violates at root all the Articles of the Bill of Rights and the very intention of the US Constitution because torture is the ultimate corruption of power. Members of the Bush Administration have violated the Geneva Conventions and the Convention Against Torture. They have also violated Federal law – an impeachable offense – because the Supremacy Clause of the Constitution makes the treaty domestic law too. Major General Taguba reminds us that the victims of torture do not recover but actually carry the scars of such treatment invisibly for the rest of their lives. Citizens must realize that the very existence of torture implies the breakdown of Law, Due Process, and accountability from those in power. Once incriminated in crimes of torture its proponents and apologists must work to erode the democratic laws in place that would hold them accountable. Americans who believe in the greatness and possibility of our Nation must fully realize that people who are imprisoned indefinitely without charges and tortured are not prisoners. They are slaves. This is what the Bush Administration and its collaborators have done and what they represent. They must be held accountable. Therefore, “War Crimes” is the term and impeachment is the remedy. Major General Taguba has acted in the greatest tradition of democratic patriotism, military honor and courage by speaking out “defending the Constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic”. Each of us must do so too.

From the Truthout page:

This report tells the largely untold human story of what happened to detainees in our custody when the Commander-in-Chief and those under him authorized a systematic regime of torture.

The singular failure of the American sheeple to understand what torture means and how it has destroyed any moral standing of this entire nation continues to shame me as an American. Coupling this with the illegal invasion of Iraq and Afghanistan in a deceptive and misguided war against an entire people who have done no harm to this nation whatsoever, and you have the actual ingredients for a Nazi regime. That regime is the Bush Administration, our American government, TWICE (s)Elected by the American Sheeple. This regime includes the entire US Congress with few exceptions.

I fully agree with both comments shown above. Torture is treason, and if we are going to be ‘treasonous’ by DISSENTING, then lets start with the bastards that made this happen.

I don’t think Americans have a CLUE when it comes to the horrifying destruction ‘we’ have now caused, laying waste to an entire nation of people. We’re focusing on a lot of distracting things with the assistance of a guilty and complicit media, while across the ocean, a radioactive wasteland bathed in blood from American weapons will ‘glow’ for THOUSANDS OF YEARS.

No, I do not believe that we can stop this (nothing has worked so far). While that is the point, one of them anyway, that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t hold this government in loathing contempt for what it advocates. If nothing else, this will help you remember your decision and participation the ‘next time’ our corrupt leaders “demand” our allegiance or support for ANYTHING.

And lest you forget, your FELLOW AMERICAN who advocates more bloodshed, more war, more torture and more imperialism. We are NOT going to be ‘united’ on this issue (ever) as long as MORONS AND BLOODTHIRSTY FOOLS exist among us that believe they have the RIGHT to kill whomsoever they please.

Government sanction is MEANINGLESS, because it has NO BASIS IN MORALITY. Its evil roots for murder (war) are found in greed, perversion and control. But it has always been the people who have been ordered forward to kill for government, and it is always the people themselves who suffer the most. Governments claim no responsibility, which is an impossibility.

Let them do their own dirty work, bloodying their own hands. The real heroes of today are walking away from the battlefields. They are being called ‘traitors’ to their country by the ignorant FOOLS who revel in the blood of others (innocents). The real traitors to humanity are those that who are shedding the blood of the innocent.

Those with blood on their hands are NOT innocent. Nor are those who ordered them into the battle. Therefore, they are guilty and can be judged for their crimes. TO HELL WITH IMPEACHMENT.


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12 thoughts on “Torture Is Treason

  • June 21, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    Demons such as these is why there exists such a thing as used piano wire. Execution, even if broadcast live globally, is Holy (sic) inadequate. Even eternity at Gitmo (or Abu Ghraib) is much too good for these scum. I suggest that a “NeoSpawn World Tour” is in order -replete with cages. hoods, electrodes and barbed wire clad cattle-prods.

    The only ‘thing’ that I can think of that could prompt me to ‘vote’ for anyone in Nov. 08 is if they unequivocally promised (in writing), on penalty of imminent death, that they would immediately arrest, incarcerate, try, prosecute, convict, and execute GWB and his ‘top 100’ (plus) heinous hencemen for untold counts of wars crimes, theft, fraud, assault/rape (humans and planet), wanton abuse of power, conspiracy/commision of mass murder (9/11), wholesale subversion of govt./rights and premeditated categorical TREASON. Literally. PERIOD. End of discussion. Which ain’t gonna happen. Hence, America died in Dec 12, 2000 (at the hands of the ‘Supremes’), funeral held 9/11/01, and any (false) hope with it.

  • June 21, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    Oh! RE: NeoSpawn World Tour : Free admission, no cover charge, open seating, refreshments will be served, culturally appropriate assortment of ‘implements’ provided for minimal fee (have to cover travel costs somehow)

  • June 21, 2008 at 6:03 pm

    Guess you won’t be voting, LW, me neither. Seems like Empires always come down from pressure of “barbarians” from without, not from “citizens” within. I think of Nazi Germany, and Japan – took a strong barbarian to put them down – wonder who will snuff us.

  • June 21, 2008 at 7:05 pm

    As ‘someone’ keeps reminding me, everything now (and I mean EVERYTHING) is just a delaying action of the inevitable. Downward we spiral on all fronts, day by day.

    The only consolation will be when we can watch these neocon Nazi’s choke on their own vomit.

  • June 21, 2008 at 7:33 pm

    WRT postponing the inevitable
    delaying tactics require health, energy, complexity, talent, and luck – and are FULLY subject to the Laws of Thermodynamics, Diminishing Returns, Gestapo Agents and according to Murphy.

  • June 21, 2008 at 7:41 pm

    @ sarge: Humanoids are self-extinguishing. ‘America’ is both epitome and vanguard.

  • June 21, 2008 at 7:44 pm

    The link to the “Truthout page” actually goes to the Dr. Albert Bartlett lecture. I’ve got a DVD copy, so I don’t need to see it again, but I would like to see what Truthout says. Sometimes they do tell the truth, but mostly the site lies by omission.

  • June 21, 2008 at 8:01 pm

    google showed this link
    Whoa, seems compelling:

    “This report tells the largely untold human story of what happened to detainees in our custody when the commander in chief and those under him authorized a systematic regime of torture,” retired Army Major General Antonio Taguba, who oversaw the official investigation of the Abu Ghraib prison.

  • June 22, 2008 at 4:58 am

    I could make a big, long rant, but I’m sure the readers of this blog already know everything I would rant about.

    So I will simply say that torture, even making excuses for it, is amoral and unethical, and I certainly don’t want to be in a lifeboat with an amoral, unethical person.

  • June 23, 2008 at 5:13 am

    I find it telling that most active, former, and retired military, when confronted with this issue, are squarely against it (myself included). You cannot justify it and still retain any semblance of being morally superior to the “turarists”, and most non-mouth-breathers realize this on face value.

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