Practicing For Mass Arrests

More evil being practiced by our “protectors“. Wondering how much longer this shit is going to go on. Think “food hoarding” as a crime these daze. Think having your Constitutional rights violated by being stopped for a non-probable cause.

They call this “anti-terrorism” which is total b.s., it’s just an excuse for these thugs to practice more of their evil on the rest of us and getting this nation condition for mass arrests and incarceration.

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33 thoughts on “Practicing For Mass Arrests

  • April 18, 2008 at 2:55 pm
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    NTM the raid on the FLDS compound, complete with SWAT teams and tanks. Maybe there was enough cause to investigate, but that was no investigation, that was an invasion. And no one has suggested that there was any abuse of the boys, so why were any of them removed from their homes?

  • April 20, 2008 at 7:53 am
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    It is believed that the boys were physically abused, thus their removal from the compound.

    But otherwise, I do agree with you…that was an invasion. It use to be that in a case of child abuse investigations, they would either send a single CPS worker or a couple of female officers first to check things out and see if the allegations are true. But in this case, they sent in an army with the intent on removing all of the children without investigating first.

    While this may be marginally about child abuse, I think its more about breaking up and scattering people who don’t want to be involved in the outside world. The government doesn’t like people they have no control or influence over, and a huge group of them banding together is “dangerous”. It won’t be long before the eco-villages are raided as well.

  • April 20, 2008 at 9:20 am
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    zippy – I think that is the same “event”.

    Buy more ammunition, now. Invading people’s homes, cars, boats and lives like this is simply wrong. These morons have no idea who or what they are looking for, just that bullshit “anti-terrorism” scare tactics they are shoving down everyone’s throats.  Syringes, drugs and cash are now “terrorist” tools or “weapons of mass destruction” or whatever absolutely bullshit these thugs are trying to call it.

    These creeps are not protecting us — they are attacking us.

    If people started fighting back, they’d think twice of “going public” like this. But that would not stop the no-knock warrantless raids in the middle of the night.

  • April 20, 2008 at 1:47 pm
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    “My friends, you are free… but you are free to respect and appreciate the authority of the government that God gives to you.”

    Although I’m not involved in any church, many people are, and it’s interesting to read about the government’s surreptitious employment of clergy to prepare people to be Good Americans in the face of martial law.

  • April 20, 2008 at 2:17 pm
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    “I am free to submit to the authority of my government.”

    “I am free to give up some of my freedom.”

    “I am free to be a slave.”

    “God says, ‘I have set you free,’ but sometimes, it’s appropriate for you to give up some of that freedom.”

    From the sermon “I’m Free: To Submit to Authority”, by the widely viewed televangelist program “Time of Grace”.

    The idea that God personally sets up and sanctions the government is so ridiculous. Did God sanction the government of Nazi Germany? The governments under Stalin, Pol Pot, and Slobodan Milošević?

  • April 20, 2008 at 6:05 pm
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    “Wondering how long this shit will go on”

    It will never stop. It will only escalate from here.
    That religous persecution incident was just another phoney bunch of governmental crap. They have been unable to find the 16 year old girl who ‘made the phone calls’
    They did find the 50 year old man who was accused. He did not even live on the compound.
    The Rocky Mt News yesterday had an article stating that a woman from CO Springs with a history of false police reports was the likely source of the initiating phone call.
    If you can put yourself into the shoes of the parents and children this is a horrible, horrible thing. They won’t even tell the parents or the media where they took the children because it is against policy to discuss child welfare cases.
    What an outrage. I didn’t notice the authorities raiding the Catholic Cult when so many were abused.
    Regarding the three state raids. That should be the final warning anyone of us need. Now you are not safe by jurisdictional rights from state to state.
    Police checkpoints, coast guard jumping on private boats without probable cause. (On the MS river)
    The storm is gathering and creating it’s own weather.

    I had trouble getting to your site today. Safari could not find the server. I also ended up on a different page to sign in. I did not use it and started over, finally got here.
    My computer has been acting very strange these last two weeks. And still your page is not fully loaded and it took me many minutes to write this.

  • April 20, 2008 at 10:10 pm
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    No need to encourage (or start) a discussion of god, not on this blog. Humans have need to create the divine out of the ether in a misguided attempt to ponder the universe. Then when it backfires and enslaves them, tortures them and kills them, they stupidly wonder why.

    God didn’t sanction anything. The very concept is an absurdity.

  • April 20, 2008 at 10:15 pm
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    It’s not about God so much as the blatant attempt by the government to exploit people’s religious beliefs to get them to blindly (and fervently) support the oppression in the case of martial law…

  • April 21, 2008 at 4:29 am
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    True enough, and Marx was right in this regard. Religion really is and has been a ‘tool of (mind) control’, which is why, historically, governance and organized religion have often worked hand in hand (i.e. the Church blesses the King and feudal system, who, in turn, act as defenders of the faith).

  • April 21, 2008 at 8:49 am
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    Buying more ammo and guns is not going to help one iota. If our govt so chose, they could take everyones guns away from them in say S.F. and no one would know. Jam cell phones, cut all land lines, they already control the media and I am sure they can control the internet. Not even people in Oakland or South City would know what is happening.And even if they did, I did not see a whole hell of a lot of people come to anyones rescue in New Orleans when the gestapo went door to door taking law abiding citizens guns away from them. And we all know what the chances of one person coming out on top against a swat team are.IMO the only thing is to hide the weapons until after Marshall Law, then start a guerrilla campaign as long as necessary. As for rising up against the oppressors, you just get new ones in their place. No matter how you look at it, 300 million pissed off sheep is still just food to a pack of wolves!!!!

  • April 21, 2008 at 9:49 am
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    There are only 3 manufactures of primers (last time I checked). Closing off ammunition sales would be relatively easy.

    Not having ammunition will definitely be a problem. Buying more ammunition now makes perfect sense for these reasons and this too: prices are skyrocketing. Next to food, ammunition is a great investment. It will most definitely be in short supply in the future and high demand.

    Resistance “isn’t” futile, despite the oft-made claims otherwise. The Russians claimed that in Afghanistan and lost. The Americans claim that in Iraq and are losing. Both are / were modern conflicts with high-tech toys on the invaders side.

    Other former conflicts with more dated equipment (on both sides) also revealed that it’s almost impossible to defeat a guerrilla.

    They CAN’T take everyones guns away – this is an impossible task and they know it. Not only would we not stand for it, but they do not have the manpower to do it either. It is a logistical impossibility. All they can do is make high profile cases and attempt to browbeat the population into submission by acceptance.

    We outnumber these guys something like 10,000:1 (somebody can do the math for me). They achieve compliance by threat and intimidation and make public events like the one in question on this thread. But they cannot even possibly hope to contain even 5% of the population, not a chance in hell of that.

    This is a “secret” that they are very afraid of. You can control a herd with just a few cowboys, or a few dogs. That’s all it takes. But stampede the herd and you’ve lost all control. They are trying very hard to make sure the herd doesn’t stampede, stays stupid and dumb and believes that it has no horns, despite the plethora of “horns” (over 100,000,000) we already possess.

    Just making a point — not advocating anything here other then what seems to be really “isn’t”.

    If the fools in SF willingly give up their guns due to some idiotic “mandate” from on high (federal or state level or even city level), then they’re simply fools. Period. Slaves are disarmed.

    Smart people in California buried their assault weapons when the ban went into effect and kept their mouths shut.

    It makes absolutely no difference at all if the government cuts the phones or Internet or any of the high tech toys we have all come to know and love. Low-tech will ALWAYS beat high tech. You have to accept a rate of attrition, but this is exactly how it has worked in other countries around the world that have successful repelled their invaders.

    I would also argue that makes no sense to wait for martial law to start before a guerrilla campaign begins. That’s like gassing up after you’ve run out of gas in the desert, why would you do that?

    There are already, groups “out there” like ELF and sub-culture radical groups that don’t believe they should wait a second longer to fight for what they believe in. This is the “domestic terrorism” we’re being told is going on.

    But compare that to the environmental terrorism that is going on by corporate America. Or the social terrorism that is going on by the criminal just(us) system. Or the political terrorism that is going on by the corrupt creeps in office. Or the media terrorism that is going on by the paid pundits. Or the financial terrorism that is going on by the entire banking / financial elitist system.

    They are ALL in league with one another and designed to ensure that you remain a slave all the days you live and that the planet you live on is raped, pillage, exploited, polluted and destroyed to the nth degree in the process.

    The truth is actually deeper then this — for we are ourselves ALL in league with this evil, and then we wonder why we are overworked, underpaid, overfed, slothful, apathetic, sick, diseased and stressed to the breaking point. Then our world turns upside down against us on a multitude of fronts, environmental, political, social, even religious and we wonder “why” this has happened. We are guilty of our own destruction.

    It’s time we put all this “stuff” into a perspective that is real and authentic.

    Which is better — to acquiesence to your slave status and do exactly as your told or to fight for what you believe in? Who is the real “terrorist” here? The ones that lay claim to “authorized authority” or the ones who can prove injustice, despite not being recognized by any “court of law” (which are controlled by the terrorizors)?

    What is injustice anyway? Is it “fairness” or is it really something else? Isn’t it equity?

    The lack of equity in this world of our today is what creates the terrible imbalances we all labor under. Even environmental equity, or “planetary equity” can be thought of as being completely out of kilter (and it is). Our utter failure to deal with this by stopping the abuse that has gone on has led us all to the brink of destruction. Who’s the real terrorists here?

  • April 21, 2008 at 10:25 am
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    Hi,

    “There are only 3 manufactures of primers (last time I checked). Closing off ammunition sales would be relatively easy.

    Not having ammunition will definitely be a problem. Buying more ammunition now makes perfect sense for these reasons and this too: prices are skyrocketing. Next to food, ammunition is a great investment. It will most definitely be in short supply in the future and high demand.”

    Here’s an idea: Buy reloading equipment and learn to reload ammo….anyone here do it?

    Tree

  • April 21, 2008 at 12:06 pm
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    @ Tree

    Not personally. But I do know several perople who do. I’d be guessing that those who ‘might’ , aren’t going to be posting said capability online – especially to a alphabet goon monitored blog. Just saying.

  • April 21, 2008 at 4:18 pm
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    Oh, OK,

    I’ve known people that did it….wasn’t a big deal, but…today is a different day..

    I don’t like how shotgun shells, for example can get unstable, so was thinking the ammo might store better in it’s component pieces instead of assembled. also, could be quite lucrative in the future if you had a collection of the most common dies, etc.

    IF you think of it, would you ask the reloaders you know if I’m correct on the superior storage ability? I know powder can come in plastic jugs-like antifreeze bottles. That would be pretty secure from moisture, I think.(again, thinking more about shotshell than anything else)

    🙂 Tree

  • April 21, 2008 at 4:53 pm
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    Black powder stores really well in the plastic jugs. I use the stuff for special effects in rituals.

  • April 21, 2008 at 5:55 pm
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    Bullets are like bubble-gum. If you don’t have enough for everyone, you’re fucked.
    No matter how much you have it won’t last forever. Sooner or later, POP – game over.

    Don’t bring a knife to a gun fight – and don’t bring a gun to an missile strike, drone assault, or aerial spraying.
    No one in the coming (terminal) Stone Age will be carrying an assault rifle. Long bow, ballista, sling and snare – sure.
    Cave chemistry will be for (the tools of) shamans and suicide, not development of explosive munitions. Just my guess.

  • April 22, 2008 at 4:53 am
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    Reloading supply purchases are already heavily regulated and monitored. There are fewer primary sources for the various components (bullets, primers, powder) than their are for finished ammunition (which can be obtained as milsurp, in addition to new commercial market product), and prices for reloading gear and supplies are also skyrocketing. Primers doubled in the last two years (but are still cheap). Powder’s up. Bullets up 300%, same period. Brass prices….don’t get me started.
    Only boxer primed brass can be reloaded. The steel case stuff, and berdan primed ammo, forget it. Still, if you can reload, you definitely should. But you still need something to reload, and admin is right, ammo is and has been skyrocketing, makes a great investment in many ways (financial, insurance, protection).

    Admin, I just don’t see a guerrilla movement starting spontaneously. Humans are supremely adaptable, and this works against us under many circumstances. We adapt to the bad as well as the good. Koestler’s “Darkness At Noon” brilliantly illustrates that we can even get used to being tortured, given enough exposure.
    The sheeple are asleep, and will stay so without some event to spark it off. TPTB control all that they see, hear, and even believe. Plus, when your head is kept only barely above water (an designed in condition), you do not rock the boat. Can’t afford to. Gotta’ get little Johnny to soccer practice. Still wishing for a big screen TV. Totally plugged into the matrix.
    They don’t want to be disconnected, and will fight against it.
    Just wait and see….the folks in SF will willingly surrender their weapons, for the most part, and go about their business like good citizens of The Empire.

  • April 22, 2008 at 7:52 am
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    This is where I wonder if weapons are the answer. As someone who has been involved in protests to letter writing campaigns, I also realize the impossibility of changing minds. So much of our beliefs are formed in our early years. When you root out why you are what you are, for many, they fall back on parental upbringing and the jibberish they were taught about America in elementary school. How do you break through this doublethink???

    The fact is you can’t. However events can. Hunger in America, gas and food prices that force the middle class into poverty, the collapse of housing values COMBINED with police state tactics and government surveillance can!

    We’ve seen revolution work in other countries. Think Russia, China, various Latin American countries. Often the armed countryside revolts against the repressive tactics of a military government. But that change often comes at a dear price, and often replaces one system of repression with another.

    What is becoming increasingly clear to me is that the Pentagon no longer acts in the people’s interest, nor even as a tool of domination. Instead, they are actively engaged in shaping and controlling the American public. It’s as if all the CIA tactics studied and learned since Truman created the agency in the 50s are now being turned against the U.S. population. Those of us who are strong enough to see this truly are the Paul Reveres, sounding the alarm.

    It’s not just giving up guns. Will the American people continue to accept illegal wiretapping? House to house searches without probable cause? Mass arrests? Surviellance by drones? Even satellites turned against the population! Spy satellites used against the Russians and Chinese and paid for by Americans are now being turned on the American population itself.

    All of us are right to be concerned. But the system controls all the cards. The corporate media is a great house organ for the government, that like Big Brother, comes into everyone’s home. Ironically, most of us actually pay to access it.

    I am not a defeatist, but the future is bleak. I envision a return to the Middle Ages, where the system is feudal, the current ruling class described as royalty (even though they will be warlords), and the Earth returned to slave labor to benefit the few. I am hopeful that this will not happen in my lifetime (I estimate about 30 years left give or take).

    Those that remain independent of such a system will be those who can survive as the hunted. In the Middle Ages, even in the midst of hunger and slavery, the ruling class had no problem finding those in the rabble willing to fight its wars.

    Ad infinitum….

  • April 22, 2008 at 7:55 am
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    Berdan brass is reloadable, just requires more manual steps, depriming by hand and swaging. Works just fine. I would suggest everyone keep their brass (real brass).

    But it’s not brass that is problematic. Components are still way cheaper then live rounds, even mil-surplus. About 50% by my calculations. Midway has got great deals still on bulk components.

    I do think that a guerrilla movement has already started though, but it’s not the type of guerrilla movement that some are expecting. Not yet, but it’ll happen, I’m certain of that. It’s why they’ve infiltrated every single group in the nation (and a good reason to join nothing). There will always be those who refuse to go along with the mantra — all is NOT well and never will be well.

    The folks in SF are NOT examples of determined Americans I’m afraid.  Think about it. They live where they live because they appreciate the offerings of a nanny state.  They want the entire state apparatus to provide for their every need.  This does not make for self-reliant, self-sufficient people who are determined to fight for their rights.

    I’m not knocking folks in SF — but staying dependent on the system like they do (and every other city in America) is a very strong indication of what people are really like.  It’s not what they say — but what they do that counts.  Those that are trying to work within the system are failing (for freedom and liberty) and those that are convinced a political solution is the answer are also failing — because the system itself has failed.

    It will implode, eventually, taking everyone still connected with it down with them.

    I probably read sites you’re not aware of, hehehe. I don’t post them here so the sheep don’t get panicked. Too much truth and honesty isn’t always appreciated.

    There is no doubt we are “outsupplied” by our oppressors who have deep pockets (ours). And always will be, which is why being self-sufficient as possible makes the most sense. They’ll eventually wear themselves out grinding everybody down, and those that can safely navigate this period will be far better off then those who have remained dependent upon their “benevolence”.

  • April 22, 2008 at 8:24 am
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    Admin wrote:

    “I probably read sites youâ’re not aware of, hehehe. I donâ’t post them here so the sheep donâ’t get panicked. Too much truth and honesty isnâ’t always appreciated.”

    I appreciate the truth and honesty. Please continue to post as much reality as you can.

  • April 22, 2008 at 9:06 am
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    Not quite in line with this thread, BUT – I heard a few ‘interesting stats’ on the boob-tube yesterday, Thought I’d share.

    1. Oil price went over $117/barrel today. When Lord Beezelbush and Darth Cheney took office, oil was under $20/barrel. [$200 by the time they leave ‘office’ (if they do)?] “Mission Accomplished” indeed.

    2. “Public Service Announcement” by some far right nut-job factory (failed to note the name, but they’ll be back), which said in part, “Right now in America we have enough homegrown petroleum energy to power 60 millions cars and 160 million homes for the next 60 years.” [Fuck them rag-heads very much] Ha ha ha ha. Yes, they actually said this with a straight face. And the sheeple graze in awe. God bless America!

    3. 90% of American adults who profess literacy can not understand this sentence.

    Okay, I made that last one up – so litigate against me (not even the Judge will have read/understood the Constitution he/she alleges to uphold).

  • April 22, 2008 at 9:40 am
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    Ok, I just read in mainstream media that 30% drop out of high school, and another 30% that graduate are more or less illiterate. I also heard that if there ever was a totalitarian Govt in this country, we would have voted it in(which we did, twice). Evidently, the dumbing down of America has been in progress for a while now. Also, if you can believe this, sheeple in S.F. voted to have their guns taken away and were supposed to turn them in by last January. How many actually did I have no idea, but I doubt if any gang members were standing in line. I also believe that there is no way an organized army can win a guerrilla war, as proven in Vietnam and Afghanistan against the Russians. As for reloading, you can always make your own powder, primers and brass are another story. Personally, I love old flintlocks and cap and balls. You can make your own bullets and powder. I just use some old diving weights and molds. I don’t recommend going to war with them, but they will put food on the table if you must. Just a thought. Hopefully, most of us preparation nuts who live in the real world will make it to the other side. But if not, all I can say is it has been one hell of an interesting journey.

  • April 22, 2008 at 10:31 am
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    True story. I once had a ‘roommate’ (briefly) back in grad school. This dude was graduating from a ‘respected’ US university. He had to write some drivel for a remedial English course to complete his “Degree”. When finished, he asked me to proof read it. I didn’t get very far. He had spelled his own given name wrong – twice and not the same error. Damned if I can now remember what it was either -something common such as Steve or David. No shit.

  • April 22, 2008 at 3:45 pm
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    Does anyone know if Diebold machines were involved in “counting” the S.F. election in which citizens voted to have their guns confiscated?

  • April 22, 2008 at 5:48 pm
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    RE: Lonewolf’s comment #18. What is the number one weapon in world history. Swords?
    After the guns and bullets are gone–how many will have a decent weapon? Get your high quality swords now while you still can. Remember they have to last your lifetime. Probably be a good idea to learn how to use it before you need it.
    The coming dark ages will last a long, long time. Longer than all the ammo and re-loading supplies you can possibly store and protect.
    England seems to be a precursor to what we will see in Amerika and they recently banned all but the most expensive swords figuring the average Joe will not buy high quality.
    Just me thinking long term.

  • April 22, 2008 at 6:13 pm
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    “What is the number one weapon in world history.”

    rocks and clubs.

  • April 22, 2008 at 6:15 pm
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    Claymores for everyone! Oh, very well, if you must get a katana, you must … just remember if you get a scimitar folks will decare you Muslim…

  • April 22, 2008 at 6:50 pm
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    “What is the number one weapon in world history.”

    religion and plague (sun & holy ghost)

  • April 22, 2008 at 10:13 pm
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    Didn’t mean to hack open a can of worms.
    I was thinking a Visayan Barong. Useful in the woods. Sounds practical to me.

  • April 23, 2008 at 8:17 am
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    I’m partial to plantation tools and sh*t smeared punji sticks, personally.

  • April 26, 2008 at 2:46 pm
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    There is an article on rolling your own reloading at SurvivalBlog.com today, Sat April 26, 2008, for anyone still looking for that info.

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