Open Thread

Sent in by Lonewolf, this puts things into perspective like nothing else could: The Largest Known Star

That’s pretty cool, makes our problems (and self-righteousness) seem pretty darned small.

Ok, that’s enough fun, back to your regularly scheduled programming of doom and terrible gloom:

Today I received a tip by a fellow writer that KBR (Kellogg Brown & Root, Inc.), a subsidiary of Halliburton, was behind the creation of Senate Bill S 1959, otherwise known as the “Thought Crime Prevention Bill”, or by its legal designation, the “Violent Radicalization and Homegrown Terrorism Prevention Act of 2007.” I wasn’t able to make a solid connection that indicated KBR was actually behind the introduction of S 1959, but what I did find demonstrates we are likely approaching the final days when Homeland Security (sic) implements their “final solution” which DHS has labeled as “EndGame.”

This is what I found, researched it thoroughly – and unfortunately, unless “the people” react in the millions, life in these United States is about to change forever, and apparently, it could also end for thousands, if not millions of Americans: More here – Just Another Coverup

FYI – anybody else reporting strange “maneuvers” of military personnel within the continental U.S.? I’ve heard twice now regarding this activity in two different locations. One is verified beyond a shadow of a doubt and is very near here. The other was in California. I don’t know what it means, other then these are “strange days indeed”.

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  • December 21, 2007 at 5:29 pm
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    I saw the movie “I am Legend” the other day and it seems like a blueprint for the NWO’s pop reduction plans. I’d like to know what others here think who saw the movie.

    Also, if Endgame occurs, do you think they will roundup people like us?

  • December 21, 2007 at 7:18 pm
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    lonewolf – I’ve been reviewing previous articles and re: 28Aug07 Collapse Survival On A Budget – Part 2: you replied on 29Aug07 “on the question of potential timelines” – very informative. Can you update these timelines, or do you feel they are still applicable? Thanks.

  • December 21, 2007 at 7:31 pm
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    @ sarge
    WRT
    TIP (Terminal Impact Probabilities)

    Nope, that’s my ‘basic’ story and I’m sticking with it. Point being that the longer the timeframe one considers, the greater assurance of catastrophic collapse.

  • December 21, 2007 at 9:37 pm
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    After examining the photos of the “coffins” and considering the dimensions given, I doubt they are coffins.

    Three feet deep is too deep. A huge waste of resources. I would guess that should there be mass killings, they would simply dig pits and pile the bodies in like every fascist killer state in the past. There is one caveat to this: If the company making the “coffins” were acting as most fascorps do today, they would make “coffins” to whatever specs asked because they simply want the money. They would simply lobby the government and get the contracts they want. They can make a lot more money selling plastic coffins than empty pits. They might even have convinced the gov’t to take off their hands containers that were not designed to be coffins as if they were. In a completely corrupt society, you will see a a lot of badly made crap used in the “war on terror.” For many of the unfortunates who find themselves standing in line to board trains to special “refugee” camps, the shoddy practices of crony capitalism may actually allow many to escape. We can only hope.

  • December 22, 2007 at 6:18 am
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    We live along the airway between two military bases, and we’ve been hearing more Chinook helicopters overhead than we did before this administration invaded Iraq and Iran. On the news the other day, they did say that a large number of troops were being moved to one of those bases, but they didn’t say from where or why.

    I saw “I am Legend” the other day. Frankly, I just love TEOTW movies. Unfortunately, the movie didn’t end the way its suppose to, so it does seem like an Alex Jones type movie.

    (The movie was suppose to end with the “Vampires” telling legends about the person who hunted them that wouldn’t die…a reverse of the Vampire stories we tell.)

  • December 22, 2007 at 8:37 am
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    WRT “activity”, I don’t live near any base but have had more Chinook (dbl rotor) fly-by/fly-overs in the past month than in the last 10 years combined.
    WRT “coffins”, I noted the ‘generous’ dimensions also and ‘thought’, well too many Amerikooks ARE actually that big (visit your local K-Mart if you don’t believe it), and if not, well, slip in two bodies for the price of one. What else could they be? Not chilly-bins (coolers) nor port-ta-potties. Sure looks like G-men preps for H5N1 or some other ‘disease’ such as Bush Pox or Cheneitis to me! Wondering why some local teens haven’t flicked their Bic on those stacks of petroleum extract yet. Sure would make a fine smoke plume!

  • December 22, 2007 at 8:47 am
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    I’ve long felt that Hollywood gets marching orders from time to time. It’s clear they both measure and create the hype, fear and paranoia going on in the country. Without movies, “where” would many be? They’d be forced to read (and wouldn’t).

    Cherenkov – I do agree with you. They are too deep and have hinged lids, making them poor choices for coffins. They are shipping containers, but I’ve no idea why they stockpiled, except for the simple fact that plastics have gone pretty high due to petroleum costs.

    This could easily be no more a ‘conspiracy’ then a company investing in it’s own products.

    BUT WAIT!!! BUY FOOD!! DEATH CAMPS AHEAD!! TAKE YOUR FREEZE DRIED RATIONS WITH YOU!! BRIBE YOUR PRISON GUARDS WITH BLUEBERRY CHEESECAKE!!

    Sorry, couldn’t help myself.

    There are long standing jokes around here about “Father Bush” and “rations”, easier understood if you could actually hear them, I’m made to laugh often.

    What makes depopulation so real, and so scary aren’t stories like this, or the “cattle cars with shackles” (I’ve seen the pictures) or other reports such as chemtrails with binary agents, is the fact that many of us seem to know (except the Fogel dude) that population reduction, at least population control, is absolutely necessary. If we are starting to struggle feeding our planet now, what might it be like when we face additional shortages of fuel, fertilizer and water?

    Frankly, I’ve no doubt whatsoever that the population will be dramatically reduced, suddenly. There are many different ways that this could be accomplished. The most efficient means would not be house-to-house and mass arrest and internment camps lined with firebrick, but plague and disease.

    I am legend was believable right up to the point where the flesh eating humanoids showed up. Accidentally or deliberately creating a virus or “cure” that wipes out mankind is believable enough. The living dead, not.

    We’ve already got plenty of zombies and living dead in our midst anyway.

  • December 22, 2007 at 9:32 am
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    The Green Anarchy site and Venemous Butterfly have articles about ‘attacking the corporate monstrosities’ with direct action. I’ve long wondered why there is actually more of this type of activity. It’s another reason why I don’t believe the “paper patriots” (picking on just one group) will rise up and defend themselves until it’s far, far too late. They lack the skills and the experience in insurgency and guerrilla tactics.

    This is true of most groups in fact, particularly those that seek dramatic changes. They’re not willing to tear down the corporate structures and all the props that go with them.

    The reason why this is significant is because it points out the lack of thinking outside of the (prison) box that has been wrapped around us.

  • December 22, 2007 at 10:11 am
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    Anyone remember all the piles of personal items in the death camps of WWII? That could be what these ‘coffins’ are for. Can’t have piles of crap laying everywhere when you need the room for sheeple. Probably designed to be moved by forklift.

  • December 22, 2007 at 10:30 am
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    that “I waterboarded!” article/post (and comments) was highly informative.

    IMO, if it wasn’t torture, ‘they’ wouldn’t do/use it – PERIOD.

    that the truth is being extracted via torture is a whole different matter – not likely

    and that “our” government doesn’t torture is about as real as Santa Claus

  • December 23, 2007 at 8:19 am
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    @ aft

    Hoover, the cross-dressing control freak ‘only’ had plans – no mass arrests, no suspension of Habeas Corpus. The treasonous Neocon megalomaniacs have already voided Habeas Corpus with the help of a complicit Congress. Hoover ‘only’ wanted to dispose of 12,000, while Beezelbush’s list is in the millions. HUGE difference. We’re already so far beyond any precedence in recorded HIStory that the Spanish Inquisition is going to seem like a bushing picnic with Yogi and Boo-Boo in Jellystone Park.

  • December 24, 2007 at 2:44 pm
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    Almost 60 years old, and they’re still using the very same tactics as ever. Now, with the added ‘toys’ they’ve got, they can program us from a distance, listen in on our conversations and even kill us remotely.

  • December 24, 2007 at 7:47 pm
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    And under the heading, Don’t worry, you are being told the truth … FCC chief defends media ownership plan

    The conflicting impressions say a lot about the divisive nature of the media ownership debate. Too much media in the hands of too few companies raises fears of an emerging corporate big brother and fewer news and information sources.

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