Apr 282017
 

It’s looking more and more likely that there will be some kind of pissing match taking place, engaging U.S. forces against North Korea.

A second ballistic missile test has been fired – with a second failure.

North Korea has huge armaments and a very large army, that is far larger then the U.S. forces.

If war breaks out, it will mean tens of thousands (minimum) dead. Probably a lot more then this. And the sheer bat-crazy insanity of North Korea’s leader would probably mean nuclear weapons and kamikaze type attacks on South Korea and anything else they can reach with their missiles, bombs or bodies.

We’re definitely entering into yet another scary time. I do not have any confidence in America leadership on this one. The rhetoric on both sides is almost scripted, “piss me off again and I’m going to go nuclear on your ass” attitudes. Which it might – and then that could easily trigger World War III – and a nuclear one at that.

War is imminent. Take the time to read this link – and watch the video. The rhetoric and faketriotic music should leave you shaking.

 

  20 Responses to “Buildup to War”

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    Do we really know that Kim is “bat-crazy insane”? The US government and western mass media are always claiming that those foreign leaders who oppose empire and neoliberalism are “crazy” and/or “thugs.” The list includes Saddam, Gaddafi, Putin, Assad, Ahmadinejad, Castro, Chavez….

    Meanwhile, guys like Pinochet, Suharto, and Erdogan are a-okay.

    Kim said “this” and Kim said “that.” Did he really? In what context? What was also said that was left out?

    Pretty much all I know about Kim is filtered through the western mass media and government. I wouldn’t trust any of it worth a damn.

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      Your mileage may vary. I’ve seen a number of documentaries about North Korea, with several revealing the instability of Kim. He’s basically a punk. He’ll let his countrymen starve while forcing slave labor for military armaments. The number of refugees that have reported the real happenings within North Korea has consistently reported how this country is committed to the destruction of the West. They treat Kim as a god. This is very heavily indoctrinated into them. Not every citizen believes this, but most are too afraid to rebel and resist – they’ll probably just do whatever they are told, even if it means self-destruction.

      You’ve got two madmen pointing nuclear weapons at each other, ratcheting up the rhetoric. It’s a bad time.

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    I personally believe that anything said by a government minister or promoted by the mainstream media (both owned by the banks and corporations that are destroying the habitability of this planet) is a load of bollocks and not worthy of my attention.

    From around 2005 on I heard reports of an ‘imminent attack’ on Iran by US forces……and month after month, year after year nothing happened (other than a few US/UK patrol boats being captured, US drones brought down etc.). It was all bollocks. And now the western world is being presented with the false narrative that North Korea poses a threat to world security -yet again. It surely suits the controllers to ramp up the fear level of the proles, and ensure that contracts for new military hardware go to the right companies for the right profit streams.

    As far as I am concerned there is no ‘North Korea’ -just Korea divided into the zone occupied by Koreans and the zone occupied by the Americans…..and unsurprisingly the people in the zone occupied by Koreans are not the least bit happy about the way the US has manipulated and lied and supported puppet regimes in the peninsula since the end of World War Two.

    A friend of mine went to ‘North Korea’ fairly recently and told me that the place was extremely clean and orderly, and the people very nice…other than the government officials who are suspicious of all western-looking people in case that are spies. He particularly enjoyed that lack of commercialism.

    I do not believe there will be any significant US military action in Korea because neither Russia nor China will allow it.

    It is Japan, of course, that is behind a lot of this, both as a puppet state of the American empire and as an industrial nation in severe terminal decline…..and Orwellian ‘Airstrip One’ type scenario.

    I could be quite wrong about this but expect a load of nonsense to be presented by MSM for a few weeks and then for the ‘reports’ (all made-up shit) to suddenly stop because there are ‘concerns’ about some other ‘axis of evil’ nation that is failing to comply with the edits of the international bankers, corporations and opportunists.

    Meanwhile, everything that matters gets made worse by the governments of all nations and not one thing is done to actually protect the next generation from environmental collapse.

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    Assuming we are not going to be subjected to yet another unnecessary war which will cause yet more resources to be squandered and will cause yet more environmental damage, we have the REAL issue of insidious overheating of the planet to deal with.

    I have criticized the Guardian on many occasions in the past but sometimes the Guardian does get it right (well more right than most other ‘news’ organisations):

    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2017/apr/29/ny-times-hired-a-hippe-puncher-to-give-climate-obstructionists-cover

    ‘Yesterday, New York Times subscribers were treated to an email alert announcing the first opinion column from Bret Stephens, who they hired away from the Wall Street Journal. Like all Journal opinion columnists who write about climate change, Stephens has said a lot of things on the subject that could charitably be described as ignorant and wrong. Thus many Times subscribers voiced bewilderment and concern about his hiring, to which the paper’s public editor issued a rather offensive response.
    Justifying the critics, here’s how the paper announced Stephens’ first opinion column in an email alert (usually reserved for important breaking news):

    TOP STORIES
    In his debut as a Times Op-Ed columnist, Bret Stephens says reasonable people can be skeptical about the dangers of climate change
    Stephens gets his few facts wrong
    In his column, Stephens pooh-poohed climate change as a “modest (0.85 degrees Celsius) warming of the Northern Hemisphere since 1880,” citing the 2014 IPCC report. However, Stephens packed three big mistakes into that single sentence. Here’s what the IPCC said (emphasis added):

    The globally averaged combined land and ocean surface temperature data as calculated by a linear trend show a warming of 0.85 [0.65 to 1.06] °C over the period 1880 to 2012
    The northern hemisphere warms faster than the global average because it has more land and less ocean than the southern hemisphere (water warms slowly), so this is an important mistake that underestimates the global temperature rise. On top of that, since 2012 we’ve seen the three hottest years on record (2014, 2015, and 2016), so even the 0.85°C warming figure is outdated (it’s now right around 1°C).
    Stephens doesn’t understand the rapid pace or urgency of the problem
    Most importantly, the global warming we’ve experience is in no way “modest.” We’re already causing a rate of warming faster than when the Earth transitions out of an ice age, and within a few decades we could be causing the fastest climate change Earth has seen in 50 million years. The last ice age transition saw about 4°C global warming over 10,000 years; humans are on pace to cause that much warming between 1900 and 2100 – a period of just 200 years, with most of that warming happening since 1975…….;

    (For obvious reasons I am not impressed by the Guardian narrative that ‘we can still limit warming’, but a mainstream business-as-usual-to-some-extent publication cannot go down the track of ‘we’re rather fucked’, even if we -or the next generation- is.)

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      a) No point in quoting the IPCC. It’s woefully out of date (before it’s even published – relies on old data and there are critical missing components simply not even reported). The 2014 report under-estimated real measurements already being taken.
      b) But it is politically expedient to do so because it creates and supports the illusion that we’ve got thing thing under control. We don’t. Not even close.
      c) The problems with the IPCC have been well documented. Nothing they’ve ever published is the real “state of the science” anyway and we know that the science is showing far worse effects already.

      I reiterate (for emphasis) – The media is under-reporting the actual amount of warming. And in almost all cases, they’re ignoring the heat content in the oceans. Huge amounts of warming are now baked in – unstoppable no matter what we may ever do.

      I’m writing this simply for the novice readers who might be here, I know you already know all of this. I do not think there is an accurate main-stream columnist out there, they all get it wrong (still). There is no excuse for this other then sheer laziness or their work is being edited down by the editors.

      The situation is worsening every single day. It is not getting better at all. It is the greatest threat to humanity and life on Earth that we have ever faced. But the American media in particular is doing a piss-poor job of keeping people informed – on purpose, apparently.

      This in itself, all by itself – is a crime against humanity.

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    A lot of information about oil -isn’t that nearly always what it’s about?- here

    http://crudeoilpeak.info/south-koreas-oil-trade-under-threat

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    Reign of Idiots:

    “The idiots know only one word—more.”

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/46973.htm

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      Hedges is hated – for telling the truth. We are surrounding by fucking idiots. The words of all the wise fall on deaf ears and dumb minds.

      We are at war. But the idiots don’t even know that they’re the enemy.

      I’ve spent the last few days working my butt off. I’m so disgusted I can’t write words here.

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    What the N. Korean “Crisis” Is Really About:

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/05/03/n-korean-crisis-really/

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      Thank you for the link. I do not follow Roberts and would have missed this.

      I agree with his initial conclusions, this is about China, but find myself astounded at his illogical and ill-conceived claims that this is preparation for a pre-emptive nuclear attack. His leaps in logic are legendary. He’s been wrong many times before, let’s hope he’s just as wrong again.

      It is irrelevant “what the Russians” are claiming to think. I also will note that psyops would dictate feeding your enemy bogus information. He missed this in his own analysis.

      He thinks that the Americans are deliberately signaling their intentions (which would be stupid of course), but then omits recognizing that the Russians are indeed master chess players, but somehow let it leak out that Lt. Gen. Viktor Poznikhir thinks this is about a preemptive nuclear strike against Russia. It doesn’t hang together.

      On the other hand, I certainly do not want it to. I want him to be wrong. I think the Americans are bumbling fools and fucking idiots. Masturbating bears in china closets sort of thing. Especially under Trump. Would they be so stupid as to easily reveal their pre-emptive intentions? Who f’n knows? But what is worse is would they be so stupid as to think that nuclear war is needful, necessary, survivable and in their best interest? To say nothing of the billions of lives that they would immediately incinerate and endanger and the destruction of the biosphere and life as we know it… Are they REALLY that fucking STUPID? And they / we are supposed to think that we’re going to go along with this insanity? They pull this shit and I’m bringing the guns out.

      JFC, I DON’T KNOW. I doubt it however. There is no prerogative here to start a nuclear war. Over what? Power? Bad man on the block swinging dick syndrome? Trump is a fool, but this big of a fool? He’ll make Hillary look like a Girl Scout if he follows this route. Which I simply reject. It’s utterly unreasonable and frankly, totally unnecessary. Destroy our trading partners? Roberts is just simply dead wrong, again.

      He is indeed making the point pretty strong here – http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/04/27/washington-plans-nuke-russia-china/

      But I suspect he’s playing his readership and even the American government for fools (which most probably are). He however has not made his case. He’s claiming that the Americans want “hegemony” but to gain it – total destruction is the chosen path. That’s absurd. It defies logic. It makes absolutely no damned sense at all. Roberts has LOST IT.

      I’ve seen this in his claims before. If any of this were true, there would be massive mobilizations taking place to ensure our survival and ability to take-over the smoking ruins. None of this is happening.

      One has to wonder how he jumped off the rails like this – and then insists that nobody is allowed to criticize him without using “their real names and email addresses”. He doesn’t even do this on his own site.

      Sorry, but he’s just plain nuts. It’s another stupid fear card to cause a reaction within the American population. To what end, I don’t know – but perhaps catering to fear is all that Roberts actually understands.

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      Did you see this one when it came out nearly a year ago?

      Putin’s Warning: Full Speech 2016:

      * [Video]: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kqD8lIdIMRo&t=437s

      * [Transcript]: http://lybio.net/vladimir-putin-warning-full-speech-2016/people/

      Putin, above, is talking about the implications of placing an anti-ballistic missile system in Poland and Romania:

      “Again, hypothetically – understand that there will be a moment in time where our nuclear potential will be completely neutralised. Our current capability I mean can be completely neutralized by this anti-missile defense system. I[f] this is the case then that means the balance of power in the world will be completely upset. This means that one of the powers will feel a complete sense of security. Which in turn means it can do what ever it likes not only in regional conflicts – but, now. We are talking about its unmatched might in global conflict.”

      Roberts seems to think that all the mass-media hype about North Korea is an excuse to place the THAAD system in South Korea, which is aimed at neutralizing Russian and Chinese nuclear capability.

      I find this a sound conclusion, myself.

      As for whether or not our elite wargaming planners actually want to pre-emotively nuke Russia and China both, I nevertheless have no doubt there are at least scenarios to that effect. Formerly, the US planned to fight, and win (?!) a nuclear war in Europe against the Soviet Union. When Charles DeGaulle found out about it, he withdrew France from NATO.

      Roberts thinks that the Russians are becoming convinced that we want to nuke them. We see a little bit of that perspective leak out from Putin, who tries to keep things understated. Notice how Putin returns to using terms like “grave danger,” “complete sense of security,” and “the world is being pulled in an irreversible direction.”

      Well, if that was a year ago, based only on missiles in Poland and Romania, how about now, based upon missiles also being placed in South Korea? How would you interpret these events if you were a Russian or Chinese military strategist?

      Arguments that our elites wouldn’t start a nuclear war because it would destroy the world seem like wishful thinking to me. As we all know here, they’re already destroying life on earth, and they nevertheless continue to double down. Why should they be wise to the ecocidal effects of nuclear war if they’re ignorant of ecocidal effects in all other respects?

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        Yes, I saw the vid a while back, thanks.

        Consider this: They can’t be powerful if there are no enemies to lord over. If all are vanquished in a smoking ruin – what would their new-found powers as world destroyers actually gain them? Nothing but radioactive ash. There would be a huge drop in global trade, economic activity and the diversion of resources to essential aid, rebuilding, recovery where they deemed essential. But it’s not a move that makes any sense. Destroy it (for what reason?) to gain “power” of a smoking crater? It’s beyond illogical, it’s absurd.

        They’re indifferent and ignorant about the incremental destruction of the Earth, which has always supported them and their demands. But there is nothing incremental about nuclear war and the aftermath. Even idiots know this.

        I do not see any significant moves that this is even real – just fantasy talk from Roberts, and his claims is not based upon credible intelligence. Russia has always had defectors make wild and crazy claims, there have been several before this that said the same things, going back over thirty years (at least, I wasn’t paying attention before then). Any one of them could have been right – but they’ve all been wrong. Part of the psyops that goes on imo, even if these defectors believe it themselves.

        I just never go along with the ridiculous and the absurd or the fantasy wishful thinking because it never comes true. It’s part of the knee-jerk reactionary non-thinking from the religious right (usually), but irrespective of where it comes from – they’re always, always wrong, lacking credible intelligence, essential facts, logical deduction and clear reasoning.

        Roberts could be right about encircling, defusing China and Russia’s nuclear capabilities – but then he jumped right off the rails into lala land. Let’s hope this is all it is, because the alternative is absolutely unthinkable.

        If these stupid bastards go off and kill millions of people, it’ll be blood in the streets here for sure. I’ll be standing in line to get my hands around their throats so I can choke the life out of them myself.

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          I should also state this: I am a reasonable man. I think in reasonable terms – most of the time. My urge to kill millions has been easy to keep in check. I assume, wrong perhaps, that this is true for other reasonable men. I don’t desire power, prestige or fame, I don’t even want to be rich. I assume most people are like me – reasonable. I’m hoping that the checks and balances within government (all governments, not just “ours”) will prevent unreasonable, insane men from doing insane acts. So far, to date, we’ve seen incremental insanity, reactionary right military actions. Including the building and execution of Gulf War I and II, where things got really insane. I’m hoping that it does not exceed this level of insanity – but readily admit “all things are possible” and a broken clock is right twice a day. Let’s hope reason and restraint prevail, because if they do not, we’ve got some serious housecleaning to do, pronto.

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          Acres, in his latest column, Roberts answers (or attempts to answer; your milage may vary) the question you, yourself asked. I gather you’re not a fan of the guy, but he is trying to address exactly the objections you seemed to have to his articles rather than dodging it, so there’s that.

          Sauron Rules in Washington:

          “A reader asked why neoconservatives push toward nuclear war when there can be no winners. If all die, what is the point? The answer is that the neoconservatives believe that the US can win at minimum and perhaps zero damage.

          “Their insane plan is as follows: Washington will ring Russia and China with anti-ballistic missile bases in order to provide a shield against a retaliatory strike from Russia and China. Moreover, these US anti-ABM bases also can deploy nuclear attack missiles unknown to Russia and China, thus reducing the warning time to five minutes, leaving Washington’s victims little or no time in which to make a decision.

          “The neoconservatives think that Washington’s first strike will so badly damage the Russian and Chinese retaliatory capabilities that both governments will surrender rather than launch a response. The Russian and Chinese leaderships would conclude that their diminished forces leave little chance that many of their ICBMs will be able to get past Washington’s ABM shield, leaving the US largely intact. A feeble retaliation by Russia and China would simply invite a second wave US nuclear attack that would obliterate Russian and Chinese cities, killing millions and leaving both countries in ruins….”

          http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/05/05/sauron-rules-washington/

          Sounds to me just like the sort of scenario gaming that we’d expect from these sorts of people.

          I’m not claiming myself that this is definitely going on right now—how would I know?—but only that it doesn’t sound at all outrageous to me.

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            It’s loony bin time for Roberts. He’s insisting that he’s right (dangerous position, especially considering the outrageous claims he’s making). Remember, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof (or something like that). This is absent.

            I’m serious. I think he’s lost the plot – badly. His claims are based upon pure fiction, a fantasy scenario.

            Stop and consider this too – why go public with such a ridiculous scenario? Why reveal the plot? Why give up the advantage if this is what they truly intend? Wouldn’t that cause a massive disruption with unpredictable results? Why wouldn’t the Chinese then cooperate with Russia and simply strike America first?

            Years ago, I gave up on Kunstler for something quite similiar, he lost the plot. Never went back. Never read another word he said. I’m definitely no worse off for making this decision. I’ll be making the same decision with regards to Roberts. There are many others. When the story being promoted is so utterly ridiculous that it defies belief, you’ve got to consider the source as being not just wrong, but tainted.

            Frankly, Roberts hasn’t done his homework on this one. Who (if any) credible source is taking this claim seriously? Anybody? I’ve been gone all day and have not looked, but I’ll expect the answer is “nobody”. It’s not a credible story because it has massive leaps in logic, reasoning and facts. There is nothing to back this up except wild eyed fear-mongering.

            I’ll leave that shit up to Alex Jones and that crowd.

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            “Who (if any) credible source is taking this claim seriously?”

            Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists?

            How US nuclear force modernization is undermining strategic stability:

            “The US nuclear forces modernization program has been portrayed to the public as an effort to ensure the reliability and safety of warheads in the US nuclear arsenal, rather than to enhance their military capabilities. In reality, however, that program has implemented revolutionary new technologies that will vastly increase the targeting capability of the US ballistic missile arsenal. This increase in capability is astonishing—boosting the overall killing power of existing US ballistic missile forces by a factor of roughly three—and it creates exactly what one would expect to see, if a nuclear-armed state were planning to have the capacity to fight and win a nuclear war by disarming enemies with a surprise first strike….

            “While the lethality and firepower of the US force has been greatly increased, the numbers of weapons in both US and Russian forces have decreased, resulting in a dramatic increase in the vulnerability of Russian nuclear forces to a US first strike. We estimate that the results of arms reductions with the increase in US nuclear capacity means that the US military can now destroy all of Russia’s ICBM silos using only about 20 percent of the warheads deployed on US land- and sea-based ballistic missiles.”

            http://thebulletin.org/how-us-nuclear-force-modernization-undermining-strategic-stability-burst-height-compensating-super10578

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              This is not evidence that anyone is taking Roberts seriously.

              I’m certainly not – and neither is the Atomic Scientist (or anyone else that I know of at the moment). Their statements do not relate to Roberts and his claims at all. They are not supporting Roberts in other words. Nobody is (so far). And why should they? The reality is – nobody knows what the intent actually is – it is conjecture at this stage.

              The so-called “modernization” efforts of the nuclear arsenal goes on all of the time – in every country that has nuclear weapons. This is nothing new, and not even anything to be particularly alarmed about. And there is nothing anyone can do about any of this activity anyway. But we ought not to misread this either.

              It is not proof of intent, per se. That is the conjecture – a claim being made by Roberts in particular. Roberts is literally claiming that a pre-emptive strike preparations is underway right now. He has no proof of this at all. It’s just his conjecture. He’s doing the same errors and mistakes everyone does when fear motivates them.

              I’ve said this about Alex Jones and others of his disgusting kind – if they really believed that crap they post – then why are they still acting like they don’t? They’re going to work, making money, raising families and having normal lives. But they’re claiming nuclear Armageddon is at the doorstep (or whatever the latest fear-mongering claim is).

              Their actions betray their true beliefs in other words. They do not even believe in their own words. Roberts is doing the same thing. He’s writing columns! He’s not the least bit concerned of a real war – but he’s trying to get you to freak out. Fuck that shit. It’s pure garbage. It’s why this whole ‘prepper’ movement is so unbalanced – there is no common sense, no reasoning, no logic, no balance, just fear, fear, fear based on conjecture, speculation and endless bullshit (all usually being done to sell you something).

              It’s confusing to understand why he’s doing this. And probably pointless to attempt to unravel his fear-mongering. If he’s right – nothing you or I can do anyway. If he’s wrong, he joins a growing list of fear-mongering idiots.

              I don’t consider him credible. I just don’t. He’s done a great job of creating an audience and spreading fear, but it just never pans out like he’s claimed in the past.

              The one-upmanship game of who has the biggest nuclear dick on the block has been underway since the ’50’s. It’s not likely to stop anytime soon. I am not losing a wink of sleep over this because it’s utterly out of my hands and I have not seen proof of intent yet from any source, or any of the other logistics that would indicate imminent nuclear war preparations.

              Roberts is asking us to believe him – and the incredible, unthinkable, absolutely insane idea that we’re preparing for a first-strike soon. Don’t forget that America “always needs enemies” and is always busy creating new ones – and the propaganda that goes with it. It’s how defense contracts are made. It’s how people are employed. It’s how we keep America running. America IS a war machine and it must have a constant level of propaganda to keep up the pretense of Empire.

              I’m not falling for it. The strategic position of military assets is pissing Russia and China off – and anything could happen, but it does not mean it will. This is where Roberts jumps off the deep end – he is claiming it will – but he’s not acting at all like he actually believes this – so he’s spreading propaganda that he doesn’t actually believe himself.

              Somebody is trying to stir up the pot again, the fear-card in America. Fuck that shit. It’s gotten us all worse off, every single time. I’m not going be afraid of what hasn’t happened and probably won’t.

              It’s uber late here and I’m just too tired to dive into this deeper.

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              The claim of the Bulletin scientists and that of Roberts’ are overlapping, at least in part. Let’s look at that part.

              In regard to the new “fuze” technology, the Bulletin scientists are claiming that this is “exactly what one would expect to see, if a nuclear-armed state were planning to have the capacity to fight and win a nuclear war by disarming enemies with a surprise first strike.”

              Roberts is saying that the placement of ABMs in Poland, Romania and South Korea is part of this scenario. That, too, is “exactly what one would expect to see, if a nuclear-armed state were planning to have the capacity to fight and win a nuclear war by disarming enemies with a surprise first strike.”

              Lets further deconstruct what Roberts says into two claims, the strong claim, and the weak claim.

              The strong claim would be that the planners are going to push the button, they’ve already decided, nuclear war is a done deal. To which you say, no, Roberts has no proof of this, we have to dismiss this claim. Fine. I agree there.

              But he’s also making a weak claim, and that claim fully meshes with what the Bulletin scientists are saying. The weak claim is that US elite gamers may not have actual definite plans to push the button at certain, specific time, but they are easing into it, setting up a situation in which, if they wish to launch a first strike, the capacity and preparations are in already place.

              Both Roberts and the Bulletin scientists are making this weak claim—which is disturbing enough.

              So the next question becomes if one country—the US—develops a strategically significant first strike advantage, does this or does this not make it more likely that such country will actually launch a first strike?

              Roberts seems to answer yes. But you can ask and answer yourself. Can the US government be trusted with such an overwhelming advantage that only 20% of US land and sea based missiles are needed to annihilate 100% of Russian ICBMs?

              I certainly hope so, but I trust the US government about as far as I can throw an elephant, as in not at all.

              Putin appears to agree with the weak claim as well, which is why the Bulletin scientists quote him at the end of their article. “Your people, in turn, do not feel a sense of the impending danger—this is what worries me…. How can you not understand that the world is being pulled in an irreversible direction?”

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    I agree admin. I think PCR has lost his mind. More fake news. I think he has the right thinking about our overall stupidity, but this is taking it to crazy town. This kind of crap doesn’t help our already precarious situation, causing more fear and paranoia. There’s enough to worry about in declining standards of living, overpopulation, ecocide etc…without jumping the shark and predicting an imminent nuclear war. I see the U.S. House is about to revoke about 24 million off healthcare insurance. Man, there’s no compassion left in this world. You’re going to have to be brave and salty to survive what’s coming. No doubt things could get very ugly. I give the likelihood of civil war in U.S. and Eurozone and Australia a much higher probability than a U.S. first strike nuclear attack on China and Russia. Liberals and environmentalists against the fascists and oligarchs.

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      ‘Liberals and environmentalists against the fascists and oligarchs.’

      Sadly, fascists and oligarchs tend to have far better access to money, weapons and propaganda systems than do liberals and environmentalists.

      It has only been in recent times that I have gained much understanding of the Spanish civil war of the 1930s; how a socialist government, committed to providing a better life for ordinary people, came up against the power of Roman Catholic church and the ‘old money’ that had ben exploiting the people of Spain for centuries. The fighting was vicious…..and eventually the fascists and oligarchs won (as they usually do anywhere in the world).

      Here in NZ the battle was lost in the 19th century, when Maori had most of their land taken away from them by the global-industrial-military-financial complex of the time, and corrupt and exploitive money systems were established. As time passes things in NZ get increasingly fucked by the global military-industrial-financial complex….beaches, rivers, lakes, the air, the land, the people. Obesity (from eating vast quantities of crap food and failing to exercise) is becoming the new normal -following in the footsteps of America, as most other ‘civilized’ nations are, and there is serious decline in the health of a large portion of the population, along with a serious decline in general living standards for most people in the larger cities.

      As for nuclear war -centred in Korea or not- is concerned, I think the mainstream narrative is all bollocks. As I understand it, the American seriously considered using nuclear weapons in the early 1950s, when the military campaign using ground forces was going rather badly for them. But overwhelming air power -which won the war against Japan and significantly contributed to the defeat of Germany- was sufficient to annihilate several million Koreans and bring the situation to the point the military-industrial complex prefers: a state of perpetual tension, with lots of opportunities for the military to spend taxpayers’ money. And once nuclear weapons are used, there region affected becomes useless to anyone: bankers do not like the idea of large sectors of their Ponzi scheme being messed with. And they have far too much phony money invested in that (the east Asian) part of the world.

      I don’t see much happening until the global extraction of liquid fossil fuels goes into serious decline, which is forecast to happen around 2020.